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The Empathetic Trainer

Welcome to "The Empathetic Trainer," the podcast that explores the power of empathetic animal training.

Animals just want to be heard. This is an emerging trend among trainers, veterinarians, pet professionals and animal lovers just like yourself. Join us as we learn the challenges our guests faced, as they grew their understanding and connection with the animals in their lives.

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Horses, Trauma & Healing — “Horses Notice What We Hide” with Toni Mattson S4 E32
May 11, 2026

Horses, Trauma & Healing — “Horses Notice What We Hide” with Toni Mattson S4 E32

Today I’m talking with Toni Mattson from Trinity Equestrian Center in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.Toni and her team work with horses alongside veterans, first responders, youth, families, and individuals facing trauma, PTSD, dementia, and other life challenges. I first heard Toni on the radio here in w…
Horses, Trauma & Healing — “Horses Notice What We Hide” with Toni Mattson S4 E32
May 11, 2026

Horses, Trauma & Healing — “Horses Notice What We Hide” with Toni Mattson S4 E32

Today I’m talking with Toni Mattson of Trinity Equestrian Center in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Toni and her team work with horses alongside veterans, first responders, youth, and individuals facing trauma, PTSD, dementia, and oth...
It's Not The Spook, It's What Happens Next - Christine Beattie - S4 E31
April 15, 2026

It's Not The Spook, It's What Happens Next - Christine Beattie - S4 E31

What happens after the horse reacts?In this conversation, I talk with carriage driving trainer Christine Beattie about how driving changes the way we communicate with a horse — and why it can have such a big impact on the relationship.We talk about ground driving, working horses in real-world e…
It's Not The Spook, It's What Happens Next - Christine Beattie - S4 E31
April 15, 2026

It's Not The Spook, It's What Happens Next - Christine Beattie - S4 E31

What happens after the horse reacts? In this conversation, I talk with carriage driving trainer Christine Beattie about how driving changes the way we communicate with a horse — and why it can have such a big impact on the relationship. We talk about ground driving, working horses in real-world env…
Understanding Dogs In a Human World - Heather Mishefske -S4 E30
April 3, 2026

Understanding Dogs In a Human World - Heather Mishefske -S4 E30

In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer, I talk with Heather Mishefske of Embark Dog Training School.I’ve spent my whole life with herding dogs. Then I got an Australian Terrier… and realized pretty quickly that my usual way of doing things wasn’t going to work.This little guy has opinions.…
Understanding Dogs in a Human World - Heather Mishefske S4 E 29
April 3, 2026

Understanding Dogs in a Human World - Heather Mishefske S4 E 29

In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer, I talk with Heather Mishefske of Embark Dog Training School. I’ve spent my whole life with herding dogs. Then I got an Australian Terrier… and realized pretty quickly that my usual way of doing things wasn’t going to work. This little guy has opinions. So …
Every Horse is a Soul in a Non Human Body - Gabi Neurohr - S4 E29
March 4, 2026

Every Horse is a Soul in a Non Human Body - Gabi Neurohr - S4 E29

In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer Podcast, I talk with horsewoman and educator Gabi Neurohr about building trust with horses, understanding horse behavior, and creating a true partnership between horse and human.From the moment we started talking, I felt an immediate connection to the way…
Every Horse is a Soul in a Non Human Body - Gabi Neurohr - S4 E29
March 4, 2026

Every Horse is a Soul in a Non Human Body - Gabi Neurohr - S4 E29

Send a text In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer Podcast, I talk with horsewoman and educator Gabi Neurohr about building trust with horses, understanding horse behavior, and creating a true partnership between horse and human. From the moment we started talking, I felt an immediate connection…
Find a Dog That is Going to Make You Happy - Denise Fenzi - S4 E28
Feb. 9, 2026

Find a Dog That is Going to Make You Happy - Denise Fenzi - S4 E28

In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer, Barbara O’Brien sits down with renowned dog trainer and educator Denise Fenzi to talk about choosing the right dog for your real life— not the one you feel you should want. Their conversation centers on aligning a dog’s temperament, energy level, and needs…

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WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU
Aug. 14, 2023

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU

We are excited to share that we are adding a new feature to our podcast called ANIMAL CONNECTIONS!This is where we invite, you the listener, to share your story of a unique experience with your pet or other animal where you felt you made a connect…

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About the Host

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Barbara O'Brien

Barbara O'Brien has loved animals as long as she can remember. She eloped at 19 so she could have a horse, and started an animal actors agency at 22. After many years of working animals in front of the camera, she moved behind it and became a professional photographer for clients like Purina, Cargill, Novartis, Wahl and 3M. This led to her first book, DOGFACE, which was published by Random House Penguin in 2014. She also leads workshops helping people improve their connection with the animals in their lives.

She has four sons and lives on a farm in rural Wisconsin and is happy to report, she is still married to the same man, and still has horses.